Great stuff, yeah? Well here comes the not so cool part. That night when we got home and were unwinding so we could get a few hours of sleep before a very long day I SPILLED CUP'O'NOODLES BROTH ONTO MY LAPTOP!! Oh fuck, oh no.

The upshot is that my sound device is kaputski.

So this episode is unedited, late, and unlistened to. I tried to send the files to my wife's laptop, but I would have had to send the Audacity data files one by one, and that's tedious as all get out.

So if the sound quality sucks here, I aplogize, and if the unedited portion where Sam loses his connection is irritating, sorry about that too.

Remember, at Stabbing Contest, professionalism is job... um 28 or so?

The Bear's Grove podcast http://bearsgrove.com/ which gets better with age like good cheese.

Dragonkin http://dragonkin.bearsgrove.com/ where sam talks about kids and gaming.

I know there were things i was going to put in the notes, but dammit I would rather just get this up seeing as it's stupidly late.

If you need links to anything, please leave a comment and i'll reply with the link.

Show Notes:

Tao Games http://www.tao-games.com/

Ben's old blog http://benlehman.blogspot.com/

Edible Dirt http://eddirt.frozenreality.co.uk/

Story Games forum http://www.story-games.com/forums/

The Mutualism thread http://www.story-games.com/forums/comments.php?DiscussionID=6071&page=1

The episode of Theory From The Closet that spawned it http://theoryfromthecloset.com/2008/03/19/show030-mutualism-is-dead/

Mutualism group hug thread http://www.story-games.com/forums/comments.php?DiscussionID=6082&page=1#Item_18

With Great power... http://www.incarnadinepress.com/

Capes http://www.museoffire.com/Games/index.html

The Forge forum http://www.indie-rpgs.com/forum/

Rpg.net http://www.rpg.net/

Riddle of Steel http://www.theriddleofsteel.net/

Hungry, desperate, and Alone http://index.rpg.net/display-entry.phtml?mainid=5170

Charnel Gods http://www.sorcerer-rpg.com/product.php/charnelgods.html

Game Chef http://www.game-chef.com/

My WWII game thread http://www.story-games.com/forums/comments.php?DiscussionID=5941&page=1#Item_61

SG Names Project http://www.lulu.com/content/404111

The Dreaming Comics and Games http://thedreamingcomics.com/

Indie Press Revolution http://www.indiepressrevolution.com/xcart/home.php

Dont Rest Your Head http://www.evilhat.com/home/?page_id=101

Faery's Tale http://firefly-games.com/

Prime Time Adventures http://www.dog-eared-designs.com/games.html

Shooting the Moon and Breaking the Ice http://www.blackgreengames.com/games.html

Jeepform http://www.jeepen.org/dict/

Dogs In The Vineyard http://www.lumpley.com/games/dogsources.html

SLC Punk http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133189/

GURPS http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/

D&D http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/welcome

Warhammer Fantasy Battles http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/

World of Warcraft http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml

Independant Insurgency episode with Epidiah Ravachol http://independentinsurgency.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=310654

G.I. Joe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Joe#A_Real_American_Hero_.281982-1994.29 Specifically the 6" G.I. Joes Ben and I grew up on.

Snake Eyes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake-Eyes

Silent Interlude http://www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/joe21.shtml

Some really good stuff here. Especially early on when we talk about wanting characters to fail.

Show notes:

Rpgpodcasts.com http://www.rpgpodcasts.com/

Cyberpunk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk#Games

Bruce Sterling http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Sterling

William Gibson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Gibson

What's a mary-sue? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_sue

Spirit of the Century http://www.evilhat.com/home/?page_id=103

The FATE system http://www.evilhat.com/home/?page_id=105

Gumshoe http://www.dyingearth.com/gumshoe/index.html

221B Baker St. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/1275 

Sherlock Holmes, Consulting Detective: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes_Consulting_Detective http://www.thevintagegamer.net/?p=49

Glenn Cook: http://www.xmission.com/~shpshftr/GC/GC-Home.html  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Cook

Jake Garrett P.I. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Cook#Garrett_P.I.

Greeter the comic: http://www.greetercomics.com/

Comfort Guides: http://www.comfort-guide.com/

Mickey's Cassanova game, or at least a thread about it http://www.story-games.com/forums/comments.php?DiscussionID=5697&page=1#Item_23

Jersey Boys, a musical about Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Boys

the Flaming Taft game thread http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Boys

2300 AD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2300AD

John Wick's Thirty http://www.wicked-dead.com/thirty/

My WWII game thread, which I need to update with things that have changed during playtest http://www.story-games.com/forums/comments.php?DiscussionID=5941&page=1#Item_40

Mick Bradley's The Game That might Be http://harpingmonkey.com/tgtmb/

The Godzilla Gaming Podcast http://godzillagamingpodcast.libsyn.com/

Sons of Kryos http://www.sonsofkryos.com/

Independent Insurgency the home of Rob Bohl http://independentinsurgency.libsyn.com/

I left out some co-hosts of these shows, and I'm sorry for that. Cam, Jeff, and Storn are awesome.

We holler and fuss and yell and rage about games and get all silly after a day of lots of intense gaming.

Rock.

Show notes:

Games played: In a Wicked Age http://www.lumpley.com/wicked.html

Princes Kingdom http://crngames.com/the_princes_kingdom/

Shock! http://glyphpress.com/shock/

Don't Rest Your Head http://www.evilhat.com/home/?page_id=101

Gloom http://www.atlas-games.com/product_tables/AG1250.php

Jungle Speed http://www.junglespeed.co.uk/

Doesteyevskyan Murder Ballad no link found

Two-Die or Trait System http://www.story-games.com/forums/

The nonattending member of our saturday game, Jason http://poxlom.livejournal.com/ pop by and tell him he sucks for not coming.

his hilarious webcomic http://hellbentcomics.com/newest.htm

Conquest NW where we were http://www.avalonconventions.com/conquestnw/

Mechaton which i bought from a lego vendor which was extra unexpected and extra rad http://www.lumpley.com/results.php?term=mechaton&in=Posts

Lego lik you needed this link http://www.lego.com/en-US/default.aspx

Playmobil http://www.playmobil.com/index.html

Dreamation a con I call mecca http://www.dexposure.com/d2007.html

Cafe Game Exchange http://www.story-games.com/forums/comments.php?DiscussionID=5378&page=1

Age of Quarrel an album by the Cro-Mags that came up for some reason http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Mags

GeekGirlsRule http://geekgirlsrule.wordpress.com/

SepiaChord http://www.sepiachord.com/

Victorian Adventure Enthusiast http://www.victorianadventureenthusiast.com/index.html

the worlds coolest dice box does not come up on the Container Store's website. Do they know the sales they're missing?

Perfect http://www.1km1kt.net/rpg/Perfect_RPG.php

Polaris and Bliss Stage http://www.swingpad.com/dustyboots/wordpress/

Principia http://planet-thirteen.com/

The Shadows of Yesterday http://crngames.com/the_shadow_of_yesterday/

Whew, you can do a lot of notes when you're home with stomach flu.

I hadn't set up a recording session because of said missing microphone, but Judd and I were chatting, and then Skypeing, and, well, what the hell, we did a cast.

This was a really good time.

Show notes, of which some are just extrapolations off a theme, not direct references:

The Scorpions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpions

Evil Hat Productions makers of Don't Rest Your Head http://www.evilhat.com/home/

John Kim's excellent gaming page http://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/index.html

Shock: Social Science Fiction http://glyphpress.com/shock/

Push: New thinking about roleplaying http://plays-well.com/push/

Ambercon US, which jen actually can go to http://www.ambercon.com/

Ambercon NW my favorite con of the year http://www.amberconnw.org/

Mortal Coil http://www.galileogames.com/mortal-coil/index.html

Carry: A Game About War http://www.hamsterprophetproductions.com/wordpress/?page_id=25

Hey, if you like the show, let me know. Commetn here, or drop me a line at StabbingContest@gmail.com

I aplogize for all the "Are you there? Did I lose you?" crap. Skype wasn't being our best friend that day.

Show notes: Rob's Show, which rocks. http://independentinsurgency.libsyn.com/

Hub City Stompers, His theme music providers. http://hubcitystompers.com/

I Would knife Fight a Man. http://www.i-would-knife-fight-a-man.com/forum/ Here's a little warning, read all the stickys, seriously.

In A Wicked Age http://www.lumpley.com/wicked.html Lots of fun.

Dog Blog, Matt Wilson's design blog where you can read about Galactic. http://dogdesign.blogspot.com/

The Master Plan episode with luke Crane. http://masterplanpodcast.net/index.php?post_id=286128

We wander even further around gaming and talk about counter-culture and it's influence on gaming and the story games community.

A few brief show notes.

Go Play Northwest http://goplaynw.wetpaint.com/?t=anon

Conquest Northwest http://www.avalonconventions.com/conquestnw/

Gamestorm in Vancouver WA http://www.gamestorm.org/

Origins http://www.originsgamefair.com/

Forge Midwest http://www.indie-rpgs.com/forum/index.php?topic=25563.msg246264

Double Exposure, the umbrella orginization for Condex and Dreamation http://www.dexposure.com/home.html

Ok, that seems to take care of the really important stuff. It's late and I have holes to drill in concrete tomorrow, so if i left anything out, please forgive me.

Show notes: Dave Arneson and Gary Gygax were the creators of D&D. I remembered Dave's name about a half hour after we wrapped up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_&_Dragons this is a pretty good article. I got well distracted reading it while i should have been posting these notes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardians_of_Order contains a bit of the Game of Thrones story.

http://independentinsurgency.libsyn.com/ Rob Bohl's new podcast. Cracking good!

http://theoryfromthecloset.com/ Clydes awesome show. Check out his latest post where he pimps his new awesome show Discussions From The Closet.

That's all for now, and I just realized that i have again neglected to point out that websites and email address on air.

stabbingcontest@gmail.com for those who'd like to email me from here.

And, on with the show notes.

Two games we mentioned during our conversation about board games when we were kids that you may not have heard of are http://www.farmgame.com/tfg.htm The Farming Game, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_Yard_%28board_game%29 Scotland yard.

Gloom, an excellent witty card game http://www.atlas-games.com/product_tables/AG1250.php

Bang! A western game about shooting each other http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang!

The Kenneth Hite episodes of Have Games, Will Travel can be found on this page http://havegameswilltravel.libsyn.com/?search_string=kenneth+hite&search=1

Kublacon the Khan of cons, where Jules runs a game design contest http://www.kublacon.com/

BoardGameGeek http://www.boardgamegeek.com/newuser.php

Phoenix, a former winner of that KublaCon contest http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/6481

Russian Rails, by former winner Jodi Soares (though not the entry she won with) http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/9617

Time's Up, Jules and I's favorite party game http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/1353

Apples to Apples, another great party game http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/74

Are You a Werewolf, which I'm not so crazy about, but Jules loves http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/925

Paranoia, my favorite pick-up rpg http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/rpg/series.php?qsSeries=19 and the design blog http://www.costik.com/paranoia/

Days of Wonder a great games company who make Ticket To Ride, Colosseum, and other games we mention. http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/

The Vintage Gamer, by Jim Van Verth, an excellent and informative podcast that's made me track down and buy a few things http://www.thevintagegamer.net/

Asmodee Games, who make Mall of Horror, Cash and Guns, and Jungle Speed http://www.asmodee-us.com/

Suicide Bomber Card Game http://www.playccg.com/

A thread with links about luke Crane and Jared Sorensen being hired by Hidden City Games, the makers of Bella Sara http://www.story-games.com/forums/comments.php?DiscussionID=4630

Bella Sara, the greatest pretty horses game ever http://www.hiddencitygames.com/

The Origins Awards http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_Award http://www.originsgamefair.com/

Cheapass Games http://www.cheapass.com/

Mechwarrior http://www.wizkidsgames.com/mechwarrior/

Horrorclix http://www.wizkidsgames.com/horrorclix/

Multiman Publishing, http://www.multimanpublishing.com/about.php Lu Ann Youse isn't listed as a designer like I'd thought, sorry. Sounds like she gets stuck playing "adult" in that company a lot.

NerdNYC http://www.nerdnyc.com/

NerdSo-Cal http://nerdsocal.com/

NerdNC (not mentioned) http://www.nerdnc.com/

Emerald City Game Feast in Seattle WA http://ecgf.wikidot.com/

Go-Play NW http://goplaynw.wetpaint.com/

The Wayward, a coffee house in the Greenwood area of Seattle. http://www.waywardcoffee.com/

The Dreaming, my favorite comic and game store. http://thedreamingcomics.com/

Whew, that was a l;ong one, and I had to leave some things out. It seems Jules and I are name droppers. Heh.

About an hour and nine minutes, and about 66mb.

I think my New Years resolution is to try to stop myself from saying "y'know" as much, y'know?

Also: note to self. Do not move mic during recording and do not let someone type at her laptop next to the mic. I'm still figuring these these things out, but those should have been obvious to me.

Some show notes:

http://www.sonsofkryos.com/ Judd, Jeff, and Storn's show.

John Wick's lj http://wickedthought.livejournal.com/ where he talks extensively about houses of the Blooded.

http://www.evilhat.com/home/?page_id=101 Don't Rest Your head, again. I love this game so much.

http://www.burningwheel.org/ Home of the Burning Wheel. An awesome game to read and an awesomer game to play. Hateful nasty orcs, ooooohhh!

Speaking of awesome http://www.dog-eared-designs.com/games.html Prime Time Adventures is made of magic fairy crack.

We then talk quite a lot about the upcoming D&D 4th edition http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/welcome and about how we're getting out information about it.

One of those places is http://www.enworld.org/ and another is my good friend Alex Chobot, who you'll hear on an upcoming show. hopefully soon.

We talk a little about http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/rpgsagaed The Star Wars Saga edition, which is somewhat of a playtest for 4E.

We also talked about how Alex and i want to break in 4E with a homebrew Spelljammer ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelljammer ) campaign. We didn't even get to talk about the angel drives. I guess we'll get to that when I do a show with Alex.

Another place to get your 4E straight dope is http://www.rpg.net/

We talk briefly about social combat, which leads to talking about geek attractiveness, and no conversation on that subject is complete without mentioning Gamer: The podcasting, http://somniturne.com/gtp/ and Sasha's awesome hair.

We also talk quite a lot about the Story Games forum, as I often do. http://www.story-games.com/forums/

We get into the subject of games that bring up heavy subjects, and we talk about Carry http://www.indiepressrevolution.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16181&cat=0&page=1 and Grey Ranks http://www.bullypulpitgames.com/games/index.php?game=grey_ranks also Death's Door http://www.blankshieldpress.com/death.html And Steal Away Jordan http://swingpad.com/julia/wordpress/

We mention Under The Bed http://www.glyphpress.com/UtB/

We talk bout GURPS as I tend to a lot http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/

In The Statement: Play Other Games we talk about boardgames as well as rpgs and Arkham horror comes up http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/arkhamhorror.html as well as http://www.daysofwonder.com/shadowsovercamelot/en/ Shadows over Camelot.

We also talk about the super-rad card game Jungle Speed http://www.junglespeed.co.uk/

Then we talk about running games for kids and mention Faery's Tale http://www.firefly-games.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=48&osCsid=71a96d47323a394d8707230794d5c39f and Cat http://www.wicked-dead.com/cat/ and Monkey Wrench, which I couldn't find a link to. I suck.

We also mention the Sam Chupp has talked about gaming with kids extensively over at The Bears Grove. http://bearsgrove.com/ He has most of those shows in their own section now.

So that about does it. Feel free to leave comments here or at Stabbingcontest@gmail.com Thanks for listening. we had a great time recording it.

Judd sent me some more show notes.

Monkey Wrench is here. http://www.harlekin-maus.com/ It appears to be the whole game.

Here's the ap for Judd's hateful hateful orcs game. http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=348339

Thanks, Judd.

This comes in at about 1hr,05min and is about 60mb.

Sepiachord, Jordans steampunk music site: http://www.sepiachord.com/

Victorian Adventure Enthusiast, his Victorian gaming site, which will hopefully have some content soon: http://www.victorianadventureenthusiast.com/

Uchronia, a Victorian rpg the jordan is translating with the help of the authors: http://uchronia.free.fr/

Forgotten Futures, by Marcus Rowland. An amazingly huge site chock full of content: http://www.forgottenfutures.com/

Da Yoopers, Michigan's upper penninsula's greatest band: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da_Yoopers

I know this one sounds a bit rough. Jordan and I get a little goofy together and we've always had the bad habit of talking over each other, but I hope it comes through just how much fun we have at the same time.

As always, thanks for listening and comment here, or email at stabbingcontest@gmail.com

My co-host this episode is my lovely wife, Mickey, and we have a lot of fun figuring this thing out.

Some notes: The webcomic where you can find the cartoon that gave me the name is Edible Dirt by Matt Rosemier. http://eddirt.frozenreality.co.uk/

In fact, here's the specific comic. http://eddirt.frozenreality.co.uk/index.php?id=252

I mentioned my workplace. http://www.privateerpress.com/ I hope i didn't give the idea that I was involved in design or development, because I actually work in production. I turn hot metal into miniatures.

Eos Press http://www.eos-press.com/ producers of Unhallowed http://www.eos-press.com/products-unhallowed.html

Geek Girls Rule, my wife's geek collumn http://geekgirlsrule.wordpress.com/ and Media Gauntlet where it's hosted as a feature http://www.mediagauntlet.com/

Valerie Strangiato, her sex advice site http://www.valeriestrangiato.com/

The free short version of the Two-Die system http://ogremarco.fileave.com/

The Zorcerer of Zo http://www.atomicsockmonkey.com/products/zoz.asp

Faery's Tale http://www.firefly-games.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=48&osCsid=71a96d47323a394d8707230794d5c39f

Little Fears, looks like something is coming soon http://www.littlefears.com/

Don't Rest Your Head http://www.evilhat.com/home/?page_id=101

Prime Time Adventures http://www.dog-eared-designs.com/games.html

Carry: A Game About War http://www.indiepressrevolution.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16181&cat=0&page=1

GURPS http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/ which I still love to pieces.

Some of the podcasts I mentioned and a few I forgot.

The Voice Of The Revolution http://www.thevoiceoftherevolution.com/

The Score http://www.chimera.info/

Theory From The Closet http://theoryfromthecloset.com/

Master Plan http://masterplan.libsyn.com/

Sons Of Kryos http://www.sonsofkryos.com/

The Dragon's Landing http://www.dragonslanding.com/mambo/

Gamer: The Podcasting http://somniturne.com/gtp/

The Vintage Gamer http://www.thevintagegamer.net/

Have Games, Will Travel http://www.havegameswilltravel.net/ How did i forget to mention this one?

And, also how could I forget the Durham 3? http://www.durham3.com/

A couple of cons mentioned

http://www.norwescon.org/ Norweson, A Seattle area con.

http://www.amberconnw.org/ Ambercon Northwest in Troutdale Oregon

Hey, so It's really late, and I need to sleep. Feel free to email me your comments. Thanks.